Your Nats' recap is testament to the fact that boxscores can't show everything, and this game had enough weird shit to warrant a Stefon from SNL narration, but I'll let Barry Svrluga summarize instead:
"Here are some of the things that happened on a gorgeous Wednesday afternoon at Nationals Park: One Washington Nationals base runner tried…
Your Nats' recap is testament to the fact that boxscores can't show everything, and this game had enough weird shit to warrant a Stefon from SNL narration, but I'll let Barry Svrluga summarize instead:
"Here are some of the things that happened on a gorgeous Wednesday afternoon at Nationals Park: One Washington Nationals base runner tried to tag up at third base with two outs — and was nearly overtaken at the plate by another base runner, who began the play at second but was thrown out at home. Pittsburgh Pirates center fielder Bryan Reynolds hit three homers. The Nats and Pirates turned six double plays — none in the normal 6-4-3 or 4-6-3 fashions.
Oh, and the Nats lost, 8-7, at least in part because the Pirates scored a run on a double play on which the third out was recorded — and the Nationals didn’t take the time to record a fourth out."
The double play in question started with the Pirates having runners on second and third. A soft liner was caught by Josh Bell at first, but both runners broke thinking he hadn't caught it. Bell threw to third, where Ehire Adrianza tagged Hoy Park (who'd come from second) and then stepped on third (doubling off Jack Suwinski) but because the ump didn't see Adrianza step on third and/or because Suwinski crossed the plate before Adrianza tagged Hoy and the Nats left the field without appealing the play, Suwinski's run counted. Had Adrianza stepped on third before or instead of tagging Hoy, Suwinski would've been the third out and the run wouldn't have counted. However, he didn't, and so the Nats didn't get four outs that inning and eventually lost by a run.
And now Nats fans will forever be experts in Rule 5.09(c)(4) I guess
Wonder how much of that #2 ranking is from people reading comments like this on Free Thursday and ponying up cash for the Sub? It’s good we have fans like this commenting when Dunning is pitching so Craig can focus on whatever Hollywood era he wants to place him in. Wouldn’t surprise me If he has Dunning in some John Landis rip-off as some older adult figure working with teen/young-adult B-list actors in a few start
My understanding was that stepping on third after the 3rd out had already been recorded on the tag wasn't enough, that he needed to step on third and then appeal to the umpire. Which apparently means he had to ask the umpire to call Suwinski out, even though there were already 3 outs at the time, to prevent the run from scoring.
You may be right about the details, and while the Nats have not consistently demonstrated mastery of the fundamentals commensurate with a major league team this year, I'm not gonna criticize them for not knowing how to get four outs in a given inning.
I was watching this game on mute and let me tell ya, I had no idea what had happened on that play until I read your recap. I just assumed they hired interns as umps for Nats/Pirates games and everyone was learning.
Yeah, this play was wild, and the Nats having to ask for a fourth out to prevent a run scoring when a guy didn't tag up on a ball caught in the air is a ridiculous technicality. Umps had no control of the situation. Then, of course, in the bottom half of the inning, the Nats may have lost out on an additional run (and maybe more) because Keibert Ruiz tagged up at third WITH TWO OUTS and slowed up the guy coming from second (Yadiel Hernández) so he got tagged out to end the inning. Yadi may well have been a dead duck anyway (and he blew through a stop sign), but I can't remember the last time I saw a TOOTBLAN assist like that.
Your Nats' recap is testament to the fact that boxscores can't show everything, and this game had enough weird shit to warrant a Stefon from SNL narration, but I'll let Barry Svrluga summarize instead:
"Here are some of the things that happened on a gorgeous Wednesday afternoon at Nationals Park: One Washington Nationals base runner tried to tag up at third base with two outs — and was nearly overtaken at the plate by another base runner, who began the play at second but was thrown out at home. Pittsburgh Pirates center fielder Bryan Reynolds hit three homers. The Nats and Pirates turned six double plays — none in the normal 6-4-3 or 4-6-3 fashions.
Oh, and the Nats lost, 8-7, at least in part because the Pirates scored a run on a double play on which the third out was recorded — and the Nationals didn’t take the time to record a fourth out."
The double play in question started with the Pirates having runners on second and third. A soft liner was caught by Josh Bell at first, but both runners broke thinking he hadn't caught it. Bell threw to third, where Ehire Adrianza tagged Hoy Park (who'd come from second) and then stepped on third (doubling off Jack Suwinski) but because the ump didn't see Adrianza step on third and/or because Suwinski crossed the plate before Adrianza tagged Hoy and the Nats left the field without appealing the play, Suwinski's run counted. Had Adrianza stepped on third before or instead of tagging Hoy, Suwinski would've been the third out and the run wouldn't have counted. However, he didn't, and so the Nats didn't get four outs that inning and eventually lost by a run.
And now Nats fans will forever be experts in Rule 5.09(c)(4) I guess
Wonder how much of that #2 ranking is from people reading comments like this on Free Thursday and ponying up cash for the Sub? It’s good we have fans like this commenting when Dunning is pitching so Craig can focus on whatever Hollywood era he wants to place him in. Wouldn’t surprise me If he has Dunning in some John Landis rip-off as some older adult figure working with teen/young-adult B-list actors in a few start
My understanding was that stepping on third after the 3rd out had already been recorded on the tag wasn't enough, that he needed to step on third and then appeal to the umpire. Which apparently means he had to ask the umpire to call Suwinski out, even though there were already 3 outs at the time, to prevent the run from scoring.
https://sports.yahoo.com/nationals-pirates-fourth-out-rule-suwinski-mlb-221319598.html
Seems sort of arbitrary to require the Nats to ask for the runner to be out.
You may be right about the details, and while the Nats have not consistently demonstrated mastery of the fundamentals commensurate with a major league team this year, I'm not gonna criticize them for not knowing how to get four outs in a given inning.
And yet, it isn’t a major league rules question without Davey Martinez looking absolutely flummoxed.
That's part of the Davey Martinez Experience...
His being the manager of a World Series winner is an elevation of mediocrity on a par with Trent Dilfer, Super Bowl winning quarterback.
Yep. Sometimes, beautiful places lead to bumpy roads.
This video does a good job explaining what happened. This channel is pretty good for getting an umpire's perspective, especially on confusing plays.
https://youtu.be/p-DKeVgyUJ0
I was watching this game on mute and let me tell ya, I had no idea what had happened on that play until I read your recap. I just assumed they hired interns as umps for Nats/Pirates games and everyone was learning.
Yeah, this play was wild, and the Nats having to ask for a fourth out to prevent a run scoring when a guy didn't tag up on a ball caught in the air is a ridiculous technicality. Umps had no control of the situation. Then, of course, in the bottom half of the inning, the Nats may have lost out on an additional run (and maybe more) because Keibert Ruiz tagged up at third WITH TWO OUTS and slowed up the guy coming from second (Yadiel Hernández) so he got tagged out to end the inning. Yadi may well have been a dead duck anyway (and he blew through a stop sign), but I can't remember the last time I saw a TOOTBLAN assist like that.