The Tigers fire their GM, Daniel Vogelbach's milkshake brings the boys across the plate, the latest 1970s action-comedy from NBC, the Fifth Amendment, and forgetting the Lord of the Rings.
Oh, that was Nato Coles & the Blue Diamond Band! You should've said hello. I was the guy with the blonde dyed perm. It was a wig. Glad you didn't notice!
Someone check on Simon, we're 13 minutes in and no comment.
I'm curious, Craig, what you think about this phrasing that I took the time to save under "A better way to plead the 5th," which ought to be fun to explain in the event my computer is seized...
"On the advice of my lawyer, I respectfully decline to answer on the basis of the Fifth Amendment, which—according to the United States Supreme Court—protects everyone, even innocent people, from the need to answer questions if the truth might be used to help create the misleading impression that they were somehow involved in a crime that they did not commit."
I tend to be finishing my second cup of coffee when I get my Cup of Coffee. Being self employed lets me move at my own pace. So I post here. Then once a few more brain cells start firing, I try things that help me make a dollar.
But the CoC subscription has already paid off. A poster gave me a tip about real estate my mother and her sister own in a small town way out of my usual circle of competence. Thanks Ghost!
Didn't Trump plead the Fifth in a civil case? I thought you were able to hold that against them in those situations, vs. criminal cases. The tweet Craig embedded above is obviously phrased too generally, but I thought it was pretty much OK to mock Trump here because of the type of case it was.
the trier of fact (judge or jury) can take an adverse inference. There is no trier of fact in a depo though. SO, meh? we will see if it ever goes to trial.
And thinking that their most sacred duty is to safeguard the family purse, instead of actually spending anything at all. Very risk-averse in a lot of cases.
At least with the Lerners, I think a big part of it is not wanting to spend anymore money to increase the value of something that has already quadrupled in price just because of the market.
As someone getting ready to put the family home on the market, I can kind of relate.
I wish people would put less into their homes right before they sell it. I have seen so many places where they clearly did some HGTV work all around to get a higher sales price but I know I wouldnt want it that way. In a perfect world give me the slightly lower price and let me figure out how I want to remodel the master bath.
To be fair I probably cant afford the down payment in either case-but it gets me closer.
I hear you - we've already done most of the remodeling (removing walls, renovating finishes, etc.) because we wanted the house to work better for us. Some things I'll just let be - the house is probably going to need a new roof in the next few years but I'll just let that factor into the asking price.
In my case, it's more about little(r) things like 1) Do I buy a $600 dishwasher to replace the one that isn't broken but is starting to underperform, or run the risk that a buyer is going to ask for a $1000 price concession during closing to replace it? 2) Do I fix the outside electrical outlet in the backyard that hasn't worked for 15 years? 3) Do I re-sod the backyard which for ten years has been more for dog exercise than child's play? All in all, not a huge expense beyond repainting/carpeting but not chump change either.
In this vein, I think the Lerners are leaving Davey the Crappy Dishwasher and Rizzo the Ratty Roof for the new owners to deal with.
Oh yeah-things you did for you you should go crazy on. And all the examples you have sound totally reasonable. But man you see some where no one could have wanted that right? I just saw a place where they proudly stated how it was all freshly painted, etc. The pics showed a horrible turquoise. I'm praying they painted FROM that color because if they want me to up the price $x00 for something I will immediately have to redo...
I hear you - in this case we are going to patch up all the dings in the walls from years of "we can move it ourselves" and get rid of all the various colors we did over the years (olive green in the study, kind of a tan in the foyer/central hallway, bright red on a wall down to the basement) and do up everything in a fresh white so the place looks like a nice, blank canvas. The goal is to mostly fix stuff that would likely cost us money on asking price if we didn't do it.
And I hear you on weird paint colors; I was daydreaming on lake places the other day and OMFG LOOK AT THESE WALLS - if I wanted that house I'd start at least 20K under asking just to unDayGlo the interior:
That's me. The kitchen in my house is awful but I'm not a cook so I'm not going to spend half the price of the house remodeling the kitchen only to have it out of style by the time I sell. I have bright colors for the walls which I'm going to leave if they are in good condition, but if I need to fix dings and dents and repaint I'll do something neutral at that point.
As fast as things have been selling in this area lately, and considering the price point of my current house, it will sell anyway if someone needs to put money into redoing the kitchen to suit exactly what they want.
You'll factor the roof into the asking price. And then the buyer will justify a lower offer on the basis of it needing a new roof. You can't win there.
Hal is a different man than his fathern (Thank goddess), but the team has competed every year since he's been in charge. George had some really down years, but Hal's Yankees are in there every year, and they always spend up to if not over the CBT amount.
You cant really blame the owner when your team competes for a WS every year, whether they are able to push over the top and take the trophy or not.
A few key trades in the 70s became historic club builders. None were engineered by George; I think they were all Gabe Paul. The Reggie signing was key, and I think George was lobbying for, was it (somebody help me out) Harold Baines (?) b/c Billy didn't want Reggie?
I’m going to the Nats game tomorrow night; I want to say a proper goodbye to Soto and Bell - and tell former Nats manager and current Padres third base coach Matt Williams he’s still an idiot. Plus it’s clear fanny pack giveaway night and you don’t miss that.
Victor Robles had a very Victor Robles game yesterday, with a sterling defensive play followed soon by an absolutely boneheaded throw, but Davey Martinez basically lit into him at the postgame presser, saying he would “grill” Robles about it. Everything about his criticism was valid, but he has a very disturbing habit of ignoring poor play by veterans and embarrassing younger players publicly when they make a mistake (including, when he was here, Soto). If nothing else, I am looking forward to new ownership so they can send him on his way before he rips the team’s new youth movement a new one.
My song would be Mother Mother by Tracy Bingham: EVERYTHING’S FINE!!!
"If nothing else, I am looking forward to new ownership so they can send him on his way before he rips the team’s new youth movement a new one."
Same.
My walkup song would be "Cherry Bomb" by The Runaways. My last name appears in the title, and I'd like to think that a slight bastardization of the title would be how any home runs I hit were referred to by the local media.
I’m just here to say that Spotify served me Alanis’s “You Oughta Know” from Jagged Little Pill a couple weeks ago, and I had completely forgotten how amazing it is. So I guess that would’ve been my walk up song if I were a Met.
Just so you know: one of the Mets (Alonso?) actually used that as his walk-up song. Mets broadcaster Gary Cohen, who notices everything, pointed out that they better cut it off before it got to the “interesting“ part. Mercifully, they did. So no F bomb after all.
The best song sung by women for at least some baseball players is "Walk Like an Egyptian." Even if the Bangles didn't write it and then took years to embrace how popular the song is, even though it does not reflect their usual style. Walk like an Egyptian, run like Vogelbach?
The aforementioned Goldman is an heir to the Levi Strauss fortune, and in a debate last night, one of his opponents, in noting he's using his own money to run, called him a walking campaign finance loophole. Naturally, he is a frontrunner, but eleven people are running so who can really say? (This is the race that diBlasio entered and dropped out of, and it also includes former Congresswoman Liz Holtzman, who is past 80. So it's a weird one.)
Boy, it's not like there is a legitimate reason to search Trump's lair, right? It's all politics, correct? (Still think it would be good, though, if DoJ or the FBI could issue a statement, but I understand why sometimes you can't.)
Thor pitched pretty okay last night. I know I should be rooting against him since he's in Philly and all, but I still want to seem him succeed. Same for Wheeler, really. Those guys should still be Mets, and that they aren't is on the Mets. (And I am concerned that they aren't going to do enough to keep deGrom, either.)
The tea leaves suggest that deGrom wants to get away from the Mets? Or he's just negotiating wisely, like Judge. We shall see. This whole season I've felt like he could have pitched much earlier but was being held back.
No, it's fair. If any team historically speaking would either let someone go and watch him win elsewhere or overpay to keep him and watch him break down, it's the Mets. Though I also feel like that was part and parcel of the Wilpon era.
The flip side is the nightmare of deGrom pitching for the Barves. Which I think is in the calculations of the front office, but not nearly to the degree it's in the fears of the fans.
I agree with this one -and I can’t wait to see it, because it would be coming if I was in Uncle Steve’s shoes (lifelong Mets fans with money to burn). In 2021 alone he made the $$ back he paid for the Mets. At some point he is just going sign (buy?) any and every top FA that comes along, without money even being considered, while sticking his middle finger up to the other owners.
Unless he signs a team-friendly deal, I think you are OK letting a division rival shell out megabucks to DeGrom - because I'm sorry, his mechanics just aren't sustainable unless you're willing to eventually let him Smoltz from starter to shutdown reliever.
In the back of my mind, getting from the Mets piece to the end of this morning’s Cup, I kept thinking Supernova, Supernova, Supernova. And boom! there it was.
Also, this reveals that I often have to read things a second time because that’s what my brain does.
I was also thinking that, but as a walk up song you have to make sure they don’t play the f-bomb. The cherub’s bare wet ass is a little dicey, too. Think of the children!
I know even the baby ballplayers have been taught empty clichés, but I'd love for a youngster when asked about getting a hit off a pitcher like Verlander shrug and say he had a lot of practice hitting off his dad when he grew up, so he drew on that experience.
Then be ready to get plunked in the butt his next time up against an old man. 😄
My kids were huge Lizzie McGuire fans back in the day. Hillary Duff songs were a big part of my morning for a couple of years. If only we could have added Kim Possible to the mix yesterday.
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Illich violated one of the true keys to management: success is we, failure is me. Spread credit, take blame.
...
Grissom was so excited during the game and in the post game interview. 21 years old and on top of the world must be a nice feeling. I was worried when he didn’t cleanly field a DP grounder in the early innings, but recovered to get an out and later turned two solid double plays. He had one game total above A ball playing 2B.
Selfishly I am annoyed that he, like Money Mikey skipped AAA. The Stripers are filled with older non prospects and I would enjoy a top flight kid once in a while. Does Ian Anderson’s demotion count?
Man that was the giants approach forever when they had their AAA team in Fresno. All the big prospects might make it to AAA for a few weeks. But for the most part it was AA to the show and we were stuck with Todd Linden leading the Grizz to another sub .500 season.
Dukes of Hazzard remains somewhat difficult to find on streamers these days. Music rights? Very outdated cancellable-cultural references? Who knows. But Friday nights were the Duke Boys followed by flipping the channel over to NBC for Knight Rider and then sticking around for Miami Vice, if Mom and Dad would let me.
Yeah, I think it was. And I guess at some point the Dukes moved to 8 pm since I know Miami Vice was a 10 pm show and therefore Knight Rider was at 9.
But the only one of these I was into was the Hulk. It wasn't very good, but apparently Mark Ruffalo bases his MCU performances off of Bill Bixby, so it wasn't that bad, either.
I was watching the first MCU Hulk movie earlier this year with my kids, the one starring Edward Norton, and I paused it twice to explain the homages to the TV show in the movie:
1. There's an episode of Courtship of Eddie's Father playing on a TV in the background in one scene.
Ferrigno's son is an actor, and played a superhero on Stargirl.
And it's amazing how beloved this show is. There was recently a run of the Hulk comic that was one of the best ever and was nothing like the TV show, and the references to the show are everywhere, including a character named Jackie McGee.
I saw Magneuris Sierra open for Industrial Shithouse at Wembley. The area gutters were running with black hair dye and eyeliner for days.
Oh, that was Nato Coles & the Blue Diamond Band! You should've said hello. I was the guy with the blonde dyed perm. It was a wig. Glad you didn't notice!
I wish I wasn't kidding. But I was, I was... However one of these days, the CoC meet-up will happen! Late May 2023, San Diego?
With you, I would have expected the Great Kat! But this... this is MUCH better. Tip of the cap, raise of the horned hand!
Are you always in Puerto Rico around the same time of year?
Someone check on Simon, we're 13 minutes in and no comment.
I'm curious, Craig, what you think about this phrasing that I took the time to save under "A better way to plead the 5th," which ought to be fun to explain in the event my computer is seized...
"On the advice of my lawyer, I respectfully decline to answer on the basis of the Fifth Amendment, which—according to the United States Supreme Court—protects everyone, even innocent people, from the need to answer questions if the truth might be used to help create the misleading impression that they were somehow involved in a crime that they did not commit."
I'm working on it!!
There but for the speed of Simon go I …
As for pleading the Fifth, I think Taylor Swift has the best approach: “I would like to be excluded from this narrative.“
It's not speed. It's that I am up really early and have the time. And that I talk too much.
I'm usually up early also but I don't want to be the first comment so I wait until someone else speaks up.😄
I tend to be finishing my second cup of coffee when I get my Cup of Coffee. Being self employed lets me move at my own pace. So I post here. Then once a few more brain cells start firing, I try things that help me make a dollar.
But the CoC subscription has already paid off. A poster gave me a tip about real estate my mother and her sister own in a small town way out of my usual circle of competence. Thanks Ghost!
I'm up by the crack of 10 central. Very irregular work and school and life schedule. I talk too much too. Hello everyone!
Hi Nato!
<waves from the Eastern time zone>
Try saying that over 400 times!
Didn't Trump plead the Fifth in a civil case? I thought you were able to hold that against them in those situations, vs. criminal cases. The tweet Craig embedded above is obviously phrased too generally, but I thought it was pretty much OK to mock Trump here because of the type of case it was.
the trier of fact (judge or jury) can take an adverse inference. There is no trier of fact in a depo though. SO, meh? we will see if it ever goes to trial.
Regarding the Illitch thing it’s really amazing how many of these guys who inherited teams from their dads are just the absolute worst: Hal
Steinbrenner, John Mara, the Angelos kids, the Lerners, James Dolan, Illitch, etc. Born on 3rd base thinking they’ve hit a triple.
And thinking that their most sacred duty is to safeguard the family purse, instead of actually spending anything at all. Very risk-averse in a lot of cases.
At least with the Lerners, I think a big part of it is not wanting to spend anymore money to increase the value of something that has already quadrupled in price just because of the market.
As someone getting ready to put the family home on the market, I can kind of relate.
I wish people would put less into their homes right before they sell it. I have seen so many places where they clearly did some HGTV work all around to get a higher sales price but I know I wouldnt want it that way. In a perfect world give me the slightly lower price and let me figure out how I want to remodel the master bath.
To be fair I probably cant afford the down payment in either case-but it gets me closer.
I hear you - we've already done most of the remodeling (removing walls, renovating finishes, etc.) because we wanted the house to work better for us. Some things I'll just let be - the house is probably going to need a new roof in the next few years but I'll just let that factor into the asking price.
In my case, it's more about little(r) things like 1) Do I buy a $600 dishwasher to replace the one that isn't broken but is starting to underperform, or run the risk that a buyer is going to ask for a $1000 price concession during closing to replace it? 2) Do I fix the outside electrical outlet in the backyard that hasn't worked for 15 years? 3) Do I re-sod the backyard which for ten years has been more for dog exercise than child's play? All in all, not a huge expense beyond repainting/carpeting but not chump change either.
In this vein, I think the Lerners are leaving Davey the Crappy Dishwasher and Rizzo the Ratty Roof for the new owners to deal with.
Oh yeah-things you did for you you should go crazy on. And all the examples you have sound totally reasonable. But man you see some where no one could have wanted that right? I just saw a place where they proudly stated how it was all freshly painted, etc. The pics showed a horrible turquoise. I'm praying they painted FROM that color because if they want me to up the price $x00 for something I will immediately have to redo...
I hear you - in this case we are going to patch up all the dings in the walls from years of "we can move it ourselves" and get rid of all the various colors we did over the years (olive green in the study, kind of a tan in the foyer/central hallway, bright red on a wall down to the basement) and do up everything in a fresh white so the place looks like a nice, blank canvas. The goal is to mostly fix stuff that would likely cost us money on asking price if we didn't do it.
And I hear you on weird paint colors; I was daydreaming on lake places the other day and OMFG LOOK AT THESE WALLS - if I wanted that house I'd start at least 20K under asking just to unDayGlo the interior:
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/800-Lake-Caroline-Dr-Ruther-Glen-VA-22546/12116622_zpid/
That's me. The kitchen in my house is awful but I'm not a cook so I'm not going to spend half the price of the house remodeling the kitchen only to have it out of style by the time I sell. I have bright colors for the walls which I'm going to leave if they are in good condition, but if I need to fix dings and dents and repaint I'll do something neutral at that point.
As fast as things have been selling in this area lately, and considering the price point of my current house, it will sell anyway if someone needs to put money into redoing the kitchen to suit exactly what they want.
You'll factor the roof into the asking price. And then the buyer will justify a lower offer on the basis of it needing a new roof. You can't win there.
My first favorite team was the Calvin Griffith era Twins. Inherited from his uncle then moved to MN because there weren’t many minorities there.
According the idiot nephew Griffith, baseball didn't sell in DC because "they" all liked stuff like wrestling instead, if memory serves.
Which... ok, move to Minneapolis in the era of the AWA and Vern Gagne??? Allright, CALVIN.
Hal is a different man than his fathern (Thank goddess), but the team has competed every year since he's been in charge. George had some really down years, but Hal's Yankees are in there every year, and they always spend up to if not over the CBT amount.
You cant really blame the owner when your team competes for a WS every year, whether they are able to push over the top and take the trophy or not.
1 - Hal was born on 2nd base, Hank was born on 3rd but after a base running gaffe they switched places.
2 - Hal is not great at this IMO. Good, not great, and that can be parsed and debated.
c - THE worst take in sports writing and radio is "IF the Boss was alive ..."
For those who don't know (I lived through the day-by-day shit-by-shite decades of it), Craig's (and our) pal Steven Goldman has it covered.
https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/68066/you-could-look-it-up-george-steinbrenners-nation-of-perverts/
Yeah, I never do that 'if George were alive today', it was embarrassing enough to live through in real time. He was one cringy individual.
Exactly
Plus his interference often resulted in signing over-the-hill stars. He's mostly lucky that his ownership didn't end up like Arte Moreno's.
A few key trades in the 70s became historic club builders. None were engineered by George; I think they were all Gabe Paul. The Reggie signing was key, and I think George was lobbying for, was it (somebody help me out) Harold Baines (?) b/c Billy didn't want Reggie?
Then there was Marge.
Oops, offended Ohio again. Sorry.
Jeannie Buss has done pretty well.
Failson.
I’m going to the Nats game tomorrow night; I want to say a proper goodbye to Soto and Bell - and tell former Nats manager and current Padres third base coach Matt Williams he’s still an idiot. Plus it’s clear fanny pack giveaway night and you don’t miss that.
Victor Robles had a very Victor Robles game yesterday, with a sterling defensive play followed soon by an absolutely boneheaded throw, but Davey Martinez basically lit into him at the postgame presser, saying he would “grill” Robles about it. Everything about his criticism was valid, but he has a very disturbing habit of ignoring poor play by veterans and embarrassing younger players publicly when they make a mistake (including, when he was here, Soto). If nothing else, I am looking forward to new ownership so they can send him on his way before he rips the team’s new youth movement a new one.
My song would be Mother Mother by Tracy Bingham: EVERYTHING’S FINE!!!
"If nothing else, I am looking forward to new ownership so they can send him on his way before he rips the team’s new youth movement a new one."
Same.
My walkup song would be "Cherry Bomb" by The Runaways. My last name appears in the title, and I'd like to think that a slight bastardization of the title would be how any home runs I hit were referred to by the local media.
And just like that, incoming into my brain, assuming the last name is Cherry: John Sterling calling your home runs.
"It is high! It is far! It iiiss... GONE! A Cherry Bomb!"
It’s not Cherry; it’s Herr, which is why there’d be some bastardization required.
I’m just here to say that Spotify served me Alanis’s “You Oughta Know” from Jagged Little Pill a couple weeks ago, and I had completely forgotten how amazing it is. So I guess that would’ve been my walk up song if I were a Met.
Just so you know: one of the Mets (Alonso?) actually used that as his walk-up song. Mets broadcaster Gary Cohen, who notices everything, pointed out that they better cut it off before it got to the “interesting“ part. Mercifully, they did. So no F bomb after all.
It was Mark Canha. https://twitter.com/chippieee/status/1557430442625708033?s=12
The best song sung by women for at least some baseball players is "Walk Like an Egyptian." Even if the Bangles didn't write it and then took years to embrace how popular the song is, even though it does not reflect their usual style. Walk like an Egyptian, run like Vogelbach?
The aforementioned Goldman is an heir to the Levi Strauss fortune, and in a debate last night, one of his opponents, in noting he's using his own money to run, called him a walking campaign finance loophole. Naturally, he is a frontrunner, but eleven people are running so who can really say? (This is the race that diBlasio entered and dropped out of, and it also includes former Congresswoman Liz Holtzman, who is past 80. So it's a weird one.)
Boy, it's not like there is a legitimate reason to search Trump's lair, right? It's all politics, correct? (Still think it would be good, though, if DoJ or the FBI could issue a statement, but I understand why sometimes you can't.)
Thor pitched pretty okay last night. I know I should be rooting against him since he's in Philly and all, but I still want to seem him succeed. Same for Wheeler, really. Those guys should still be Mets, and that they aren't is on the Mets. (And I am concerned that they aren't going to do enough to keep deGrom, either.)
I have two words for anyone tempted to sign DeGrom to a large long-term deal: Stephen Strasburg.
Maybe a team like the Mets can swallow a bad deal like that, but you can argue that it has helped to kill the current version of the Nats.
The tea leaves suggest that deGrom wants to get away from the Mets? Or he's just negotiating wisely, like Judge. We shall see. This whole season I've felt like he could have pitched much earlier but was being held back.
Spoken like a true yankee fan (?) - Degrom wants to get away from the Mets, yet Judge is negotiating wisely.
No, it's fair. If any team historically speaking would either let someone go and watch him win elsewhere or overpay to keep him and watch him break down, it's the Mets. Though I also feel like that was part and parcel of the Wilpon era.
The flip side is the nightmare of deGrom pitching for the Barves. Which I think is in the calculations of the front office, but not nearly to the degree it's in the fears of the fans.
Degrom is just angling to take as much of Uncle Steve's money as he can get.
I think he has no intention of leaving the Mets unless someone substantially outbids them.
I agree with this one -and I can’t wait to see it, because it would be coming if I was in Uncle Steve’s shoes (lifelong Mets fans with money to burn). In 2021 alone he made the $$ back he paid for the Mets. At some point he is just going sign (buy?) any and every top FA that comes along, without money even being considered, while sticking his middle finger up to the other owners.
Yeah, there's a reason the second level high-payroll tax is called the "Steve Cohen tax".
Unless he signs a team-friendly deal, I think you are OK letting a division rival shell out megabucks to DeGrom - because I'm sorry, his mechanics just aren't sustainable unless you're willing to eventually let him Smoltz from starter to shutdown reliever.
I’m thinking Sonic Youth’s Kool Thing for my Women’s Day walkup music.
Eno Sarris really likes Syndergaard's control and command, despite diminished "stuff." I'm thinking he's going to have a good August and September.
The Bangles were really good, weren't they? I forget that sometimes.
In the back of my mind, getting from the Mets piece to the end of this morning’s Cup, I kept thinking Supernova, Supernova, Supernova. And boom! there it was.
Also, this reveals that I often have to read things a second time because that’s what my brain does.
I was also thinking that, but as a walk up song you have to make sure they don’t play the f-bomb. The cherub’s bare wet ass is a little dicey, too. Think of the children!
Get you a person who feels about you the way Liz Phair feels about the subject of Supernova.
I know even the baby ballplayers have been taught empty clichés, but I'd love for a youngster when asked about getting a hit off a pitcher like Verlander shrug and say he had a lot of practice hitting off his dad when he grew up, so he drew on that experience.
Then be ready to get plunked in the butt his next time up against an old man. 😄
My kids were huge Lizzie McGuire fans back in the day. Hillary Duff songs were a big part of my morning for a couple of years. If only we could have added Kim Possible to the mix yesterday.
...
Illich violated one of the true keys to management: success is we, failure is me. Spread credit, take blame.
...
Grissom was so excited during the game and in the post game interview. 21 years old and on top of the world must be a nice feeling. I was worried when he didn’t cleanly field a DP grounder in the early innings, but recovered to get an out and later turned two solid double plays. He had one game total above A ball playing 2B.
Selfishly I am annoyed that he, like Money Mikey skipped AAA. The Stripers are filled with older non prospects and I would enjoy a top flight kid once in a while. Does Ian Anderson’s demotion count?
Man that was the giants approach forever when they had their AAA team in Fresno. All the big prospects might make it to AAA for a few weeks. But for the most part it was AA to the show and we were stuck with Todd Linden leading the Grizz to another sub .500 season.
Excellent song choice -- we also would have accepted "Cannonball" by The Breeders (a song with enough hooks for an entire lineup of walkup music).
See my standalone post just now. "Cannonball" is one of my three all-time walkup picks performed by and written at least in part by a woman.
Maybe you could get Liz to do a special edit -- "you slug like a volcano" or something along those lines.
Flower, Craig?
Dukes of Hazzard remains somewhat difficult to find on streamers these days. Music rights? Very outdated cancellable-cultural references? Who knows. But Friday nights were the Duke Boys followed by flipping the channel over to NBC for Knight Rider and then sticking around for Miami Vice, if Mom and Dad would let me.
You weren't watching The Incredible Hulk?
oh crap, I sure was. Was that on before Dukes?
Yeah, I think it was. And I guess at some point the Dukes moved to 8 pm since I know Miami Vice was a 10 pm show and therefore Knight Rider was at 9.
But the only one of these I was into was the Hulk. It wasn't very good, but apparently Mark Ruffalo bases his MCU performances off of Bill Bixby, so it wasn't that bad, either.
I was watching the first MCU Hulk movie earlier this year with my kids, the one starring Edward Norton, and I paused it twice to explain the homages to the TV show in the movie:
1. There's an episode of Courtship of Eddie's Father playing on a TV in the background in one scene.
2. Lou Ferrigno plays a security guard.
Ferrigno's son is an actor, and played a superhero on Stargirl.
And it's amazing how beloved this show is. There was recently a run of the Hulk comic that was one of the best ever and was nothing like the TV show, and the references to the show are everywhere, including a character named Jackie McGee.
He also has a role on the new ‘Swat’ TV show - the son I mean
As soon as you mentioned Liz Phair, I thought of this song. Perfect choice.